Lectio: Second Sunday of Lent | Fr. Patrick Briscoe, Fr. Bonaventure Chapman & Fr. Gregory Pine
March 15, 2025
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This is Father Bonaventure. This is Father Patrick Briscoe. Father Gregory, and welcome to Godsplaining. thanks for all those who support us. If you’d like to make a monthly donation, please do so on Patreon. Also like and subscribe to these episodes wherever you consume your podcasts. Here we are.
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Unknown
Nice. Very. Sure. Yeah. All right. At some point, you just say something like opening things, because I was once on my way to the refectory with another brother, and he looked at me and he goes, chit chat. And I was like, you can’t do that. It undermines, like, the basis of civilization. You can tell. You can totally do it.
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Unknown
Yeah, you can totally do it. Yeah. And then and the more time I’ll ask because then you just look at someone and they know the mind. Polite chit chat. Yeah, well, isn’t that just what it means to be a man you like? Look at another dude. You’re just like, yeah, you know, you give them a little head nod and then I could, you know.
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Unknown
No, I just think that, like, you gotta be in your life sometimes. Life. Life. Yes. So. Yeah, yeah. You got to be in your life. Otherwise you’re not in your life. Yeah. Like if you’re a Gregory Pine, you got to be in your life. Nice. That’s good. Nice. God’s landing mug got to be in your life, folks. So we have, like, two campuses or two places in which there are offices.
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Unknown
And then the second place in which there’s an office there and decorating their, office space, I suppose, would be is this the space formerly known as the moon base space, currently known as the moon? Perfect. Out. So at the moon base, they were decorating their walls, and, you know, they were kind of like identifying it a little bit, so, like, buying cute things that have, like, a kind of charming.
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Unknown
And Wednesday chicken like, feel. That was men and women. Yeah. Just dodged a bullet. You to be just man. There’s, like a musk scented candle. And that was it. It was just like, yeah, an eternal flame. Some guys sign to buy. Yeah. But, apparently at one point, you know, just in offhanded fashion, I said shoot for the moon.
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Unknown
The worst that will happen is you’ll die. Was in outer space. And I came into the office, and that had been like it was on the wall is a free canvas print. I was like, wow, wow. It’s one of those if you like, like pictures. No, let it says live, laugh, love underneath it. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah.
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Unknown
You know like recovered would that had been whatever. That’s amazing for the moon. It had like it’s like teamwork and have, you know, a bunch of, like, penguins hanging out together or something. Yeah. And then it moved to the second level. Yeah. That’s those are my. What was your favorite in the second level? I like despair. And then underneath, it’s, it’s always darkest right before it goes pitch black.
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Unknown
Oh, and what was the what was the event? Was there an image? Okay, like, does I like the one? I like the one of the bald eagle soaring over the mountain and it says elite ism. It’s lonely at the top. Just, by contrast, I like the one that just said underachievement. And it just it was like a picture of a lawn and it said, remember, the tallest blades of grass are the first cut.
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Unknown
That’s a nice. Yeah. Yeah, I remember those. Oh, they also those, you know, those colorful maybe, I don’t know, early 1930s cartoons or something black and white. You had one color and then a picture of a guy like, you know, holding a beer. It says like, you know, beer. Helping the white man dance since 1830. But there’s also one of my favorite one.
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Unknown
Places, was a picture of an astronaut, you know, out in space and was a red background. Said sometimes your dreams don’t come true. Okay. Just to remind people that not everyone is so awesome because I don’t think kids. You know what? I want to be an astronaut. Like, this is one thing I want to. Yeah, they all want to be influencers now.
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Unknown
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you can totally do. I was astronaut like I was. Yeah. That’s not a life requires like training and a lot of diligence. Whereas video, it came from weird. That’s good. But it doesn’t require us on blood circulation. That it does to be a natural. It doesn’t. But you know, it does require a lot of blood circulation.
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Unknown
Reading. Nice to do it. This is the second excellent transition. I what I’ll do is I’ll read the comics and then I’ll pass off on the first reading, second reading and the gospel as per usual. So here we go. Name of the father and son, the Holy Spirit. Oh God, who has commanded us to listen to your beloved son.
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Be pleased. We pray to nourish us inwardly by your word that with spiritual sight mature, we may rejoice to behold your glory. For our Lord Jesus Christ, your son, who lives and reigns with you in the unity of the Holy Spirit, God, for ever and ever. Amen. Father, son, and Holy Spirit. Father Patrick, would you take us through the first reading, a reading from the Book of Genesis?
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Unknown
The Lord God took Abraham outside and said, look up at the sky and count the stars if you can. Just so he added, shall your descendants be? Abraham put his faith in the Lord, who credited to him as an act of righteousness. Then he said to him, I am the Lord who brought you from earth of the Chaldeans, to give you this land as a possession.
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O Lord God. He asked, how am I to know that I shall possess it? He answered him, bring me a three year old heifer, a three year old she goat, a three year old ram, a turtledove, and a young pigeon. Abraham brought him all these, split them in two, and placed each half opposite the other. But the birds he did not cut up.
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Birds of prey swooped down on the carcasses, but Abraham stayed with them. As the son was about to set, a treads fell on Abraham, and a deep, terrifying darkness enveloped him. When the sun had set and it was dark, there appeared a smoking fire pot and a flaming torch, which passed between these pieces. It was on that occasion that the Lord made a covenant with Abraham, saying to your descendants, I give this land from the wadi of Egypt to the great river.
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Unknown
The Euphrates.
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Unknown
And one thing that I think is very interesting about, this reading, obviously, but you’ve got you’ve got the torch on the fire had just got a bounce of three things, which is phenomenal. I don’t actually know what those represent. So if you have any thoughts on what they, what they mean, I would be I would be most curious.
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Unknown
But if I were to have written this passage, I would have liked to see. I would have liked to see the sacrifices bound back together, is I there’s something there’s something about the way that the Lord unites things that there that’s a very powerful. You know, the Lord brings the tribes of Israel together. Leadership under our nation.
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Unknown
The Lord, the Lord brings peace. The Lord is constantly causing unity where there is not right bringing things back. And that’s not what we see here in that’s not what we see here in the sacrifice, this this confirmation of the covenant, you know, this, this very act. So it’s a kind of, the reason it actually brings heart.
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Unknown
I guess what I really want to say here is that God doesn’t abstract from from reality. That in binding things in his covenant, it isn’t it isn’t like there’s some kind of magical undoing the things are not actually rejoined, which is kind of the, the, the fairy story, the, the fantasy tale version of it. That’s this is not actually what happens.
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Unknown
The Lord can see, the, the the Lord moves through the sacrifices as they are. There’s a kind of recognition of reality. And he binds all of that into into a deeper love in the covenant. And but that’s just fascinating to me. You know, I like this the realism aspect of it. She would say that.
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Unknown
It’s on the pot. Best guess. Torch. Something to the mysteries. Obviously. Camera doesn’t know. Yeah. We’re all. Yeah. We’re done. I mean, this is this is my favorite is my favorite passages in the whole I don’t you refer to it all the time. Yeah, exactly. I figured you would know. How did the birds survive? You know, these small bird I don’t understand.
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Unknown
But you mean, why weren’t they caught up? Yeah, yeah, the birds they needed off the trail, but. And the pigeon pigeons are bring up to be split in half, right? Yeah. Like at first, I got, I think, you know, pigeons are big enough to be split up every, like, split that thing, you know, you know, whatever.
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Unknown
So you just go. You know, I mean, was he, you know, like one size, 1 or 2, and each is like, I have, you know, go through two of them, just got like, whatever. But I love this, this line. He he stayed with them, you know, so, like, the cast of Free Birds appears to be down, and you get this vision again.
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Unknown
I think this is like Abraham, like, running back and forth, like shooing birds away. So it’s an act of staying, but to stay with them because, it struck me this time that this isn’t what the disciples did. Right. As you go into the Mount and not all is right with Christ is in the in the garden shedding blood dripping, you know, sweating blood again.
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Unknown
There’s blood all over the place. Preparing for sacrifice, right. For himself to be, you know, drawn out to you could say, for the covenant, to ratify what’s set here. But in this case, Abraham, unlike the disciples who won’t stay, won’t sleep with you. You can fall asleep but won’t stay with him. You could not stay with me, beautiful.
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Unknown
Abraham stays with. Right? Even though Christ. So when Christ is present, disciples leave. When Christ is promised or the covenant promised, Abraham stays. And how then you more I read about Abraham, more I think about him. The more reflecting, the more impressed I am with him as a single individual, as father of faith, who believes his own country and does this what seems crazy things.
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Unknown
Because also, by the way, it’s not like he’s split in half by himself, right? How do you know he’s coming in here? Right there. And it’s not just a grabbing these things and ordering them. You know, these are heavy, senior heavy. So he’s with other people and they’re like, he’s leading them. Yeah. The point about watchfulness is really interesting, especially because in Luke, in the Transfiguration, we get the detail that the disciples had to come to sleep.
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Unknown
Yeah. And and to your point about Abraham being being awake and being watchful, kind of active, watching over the sacrifice that that contrasts rather dramatically with the disciples who, you know, who are asleep when the transfiguration happens. And it makes Abraham much more of a Christ figure, then. Yeah. Then, then a type for the disciples. I yeah, don’t know how to make sense of a lot of things.
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Unknown
But in the Old Testament seems like, you know, as the covenant is promulgated and as it were, read, promulgated a few times to Abraham, Genesis 12, Genesis 15 to 17, Genesis 2022, at each, at each go, there’s a sacrifice of a certain sort, like it’s like you’re going to leave her chaldees you’re going to leave everything that you know, and then you’re going to be brought into a land of promise in which you will experience, you know, blessing of all sorts.
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Unknown
So to this is our second occasion, and it strikes me like I was thinking about this against, you know, the background of prosperity gospel evangelism, as one does want to do. And it’s fascinating. Like, I think that’s what I love most about The Covenant is that it’s very clear on what is promised. Right? So you get land, right?
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Unknown
You get descendants and you get blessing. And they might be repeated. Just one of them, just two of them, or maybe all three of them at intervals. But it’s clear, like there’s an ensemble, there’s a kind of suite of promises, and those are the only things that are promised you. Everything else will be will be offered. Everything else will be kind of, as it were, lost in a certain sense.
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Unknown
And so what we have here is, you know, like he’s he’s diminishing his flocks, he’s diminishing his herds, he’s diminishing his stores. But what he is getting, he returns the promise of descendants and specifically of the descendant, as Saint Paul reads it in a letter to the Romans, like this is how Christ comes to his people. You know, it’s within the setting of a covenantal life, which in turn sacrifice, so far as he assures us, into the New Covenant and performs the perfect sacrifice which puts an end to need for further sacrifice.
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Unknown
So just this idea that, like God’s promises are, are pretty darn clear. Sometimes we’re like, and he’s going to get you a BMW. It’s like, no, no, no, like that. Not only is that false, but it’s also a source of potential disappointment because when you start making promises of a weird nature, then people, you know, kind of have expectations of weird nature, and then they stop looking for God.
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Unknown
In the way in which he describes himself. He describes his interactions with his people. So, yeah, I like this this kind of level being, sacrifice. Right? He gives up his land of possessions for better land, his possessions. He gives up these animals. For, but it gives up animals not split into exactly. Gives up his his son.
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Unknown
Right. For a better son in a way. Like there’s this kind of giving up of the old for the, for the new that has continuity. But you’re kind of getting as you go up, get it. You know, in 2022, we have a lot more experience, the final kind of ratification of covenant. So, but with the son, you’ve moved from just mere land to the natural, the first, actual firstborn son.
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Unknown
I like that the sacrifice for greater things, but still continuity in those relationships. Yeah. Let’s to the comments on this number 47. If we’re doing this for another couple of years, it’s going to appear again. So we’re going to find out what the part means three years from now. You on that check it again on coming back. Yeah.
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Unknown
And then set a timer. Yeah.
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Unknown
Well this obviously is a as a, prophecy as they say. Yeah. Classic. All right. It’s prophecy of God’s way. I will take the second reading in the longer form. It’s not that much longer. Go for it. Here we go. A reading from the letter of Saint Paul. Slogans. Join with others and be imitators of me, brothers and sisters, and observe those who thus conduct themselves according to the model.
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Unknown
You have in us.
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Unknown
Obviously, we have imitate you meditation of Christ. But here, of course, it’s imitation of of Paul. A sort of bold proclamation. If you ask yourself like one, would you say imitate me? Now you know I. This is what parents do for children, as opposed to imitate, follow me or like a dance instructor or something, or like a band that I filled out in 76.
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Unknown
I’m just telling other people to say similar things. Well, like it’s you, but but it’s always a it’s it’s bold because we see we just kind of come along or think with me or just do what I’m doing kind of alongside me. So but imitate is like, you look at me, pay attention, and then and then follow and try to do what I’m doing.
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Unknown
And as soon as of what I’m doing is the right thing. It’s a high task. I know teaching, strange. The strange as it is, I think teachers, I tell students like you’re going to have to imitate me. You have to think like me for a bit. That might be strange. But you have. I’m. I’m here being paid the big bucks because some of the things I can do philosophy.
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Unknown
And so when I’m on board, I’m not just teaching you a bunch of random truths. I’m teaching you how to think in a particular way, and you’re going to have to try to think like me. And by the time you’re done, they’ll all be content. That’s that’s the second goal. But I just as long as they think you can think well enough, being content is possible.
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Unknown
And so I’m okay with that here. But, like, I just want to think, you know, in the particular way of thinking through logical concepts and such and structuring questions and all this. But I always wonder myself, like, should I be watching me like, am I, you know, is this worth of Jamie Saint Paul not just thinking Saint Paul’s about salvation?
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Unknown
It’s like, take your eyes off Christ for a second to look at me. Obviously not. It’s to keep your eyes on Christ. But in me. But the realization that if you’re going to be at if you’re going to ask people to imitate you, the high calling of being attentive to you, who you’re imitating, you’re this kind of chain of imitation, right?
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Unknown
The Catholic Church is good about this. We have we imitate, the holy ones we see around us, among those around us, obviously imitate those holy ones. It’s kind of passing down the temptation, the saints as well, and the saints, of course, to Christ, so that we don’t have to imitate directly Christ. You could say, although that’s our goal, because we have these mediators that help us to imitate him closer and closer, and so we can imitate him as he is.
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Unknown
So our thoughts, I think like maybe, maybe I just differ with you on my interpretation of this passage, which is occurs sometimes before on the gospel. I mean, except when it comes to the fundamental basis of philosophical reasoning, whether transcendental or empirical. Like, I think that what he’s doing is governing. Right? So this idea about like, our citizenship being in heaven, I think what he’s saying is like, okay, he’s made this argument in Galatians at the beginning of his career that he’s an apostle, which means he’s a prince, right?
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Unknown
So it means that he’s exercising a.
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Unknown
Follow me into the breach. But it’s as Prince. It’s as general. And we follow him as citizen. That is to say, like as a soldier. But I think that he is pointing beyond himself to Christ. So there’s a certain sense in which, like all of us, are called to a unmediated relationship with God. But I think when we talk about unmediated relationships, a lot of us tend in the direction of Protestants.
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Unknown
As I’m like, I don’t need a church. I don’t need a lot of the sacraments. Like, I don’t need devotions, I don’t need saints, I don’t need previews, I don’t need statues, whatever else it is. Whereas I think what’s being described is like, know what we’re talking about here is a kind of subordination. So insofar as our minds have been illumine by faith, our hearts have been charged by charity.
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Unknown
We now have access to the highest of goods. Right. Which is the divine good. But our access to it is in the setting of a body, a mystical body. Right. Which has a kind of order. And so say I feel like let’s say Saint Paul is kind of giving as it were, structure to that order or giving a kind of description of what it means to pertain worthily and well to that order.
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Unknown
So, I got, I mean, like imitation. It’s, it’s, it’s a wild thing. Imitation image, exemplar, you know, lots of things present. But I think what we have here is kind of like a charter of the mystical body of a certain sort. Yeah. That’s it. Well we’ve got the citizenship line just clear. Yes. Just heaven. And then we’re, we’re trying to inculcate that now.
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Unknown
But in this particular reality. Yeah. That’s right. Yeah. I think this is correct. Thoughts and prayers. It’s very interesting. So what do you what do you fathers think that the exact power that’s being precise here is this this is my question. Every good question not really. Come. And he will change our lowly body to conform this glorified body by the power that enables him to bring all things into subjection to himself.
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Unknown
Is that his sonship? What is that power? Sonship? Is it really power? I mean, and yeah. So so I think is that you were you’re making an argument that it’s his right regnant of power. Yeah. So I think like Christ is Christ is only subjective insofar as he’s man. Right. There’s no subjection in God. There’s principality like he comes from the father.
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Unknown
He’s begotten of the father. But like his sonship makes him one with the father. He is of the same son. He’s consubstantial with the father. So I think, like again, we’re talking about, maybe I’m wrong, but I think we’re talking about the mystical body, and this idea that our kind of subjection to God, that is to say, our subordination to God comes by way of incorporation in the mystical body.
00:21:09:08 – 00:21:28:20
Unknown
So, like imitating Paul in differentiated fashion or in the fashion appropriate for the members of a body who have different places or different roles. But I can also be making stuff up. It’s hard to say. Yeah, well, I think if this is where we’re going to get that, I know the part I want to know is that derived from the power of his resurrection and of sharing his sufferings.
00:21:28:22 – 00:21:53:05
Unknown
So I take it this is the that’s in Philippians 310. I think it’s right before this passage. So I, I don’t know, I take the power as the sort of resurrected life, the life of Christ to us and shares of us in the mystical body that gives us, supernatural power in some ways, insofar as we’re participating in that resurrected life, the particular grace of the resurrection which I agreed upon to talk about because I myself becomes a different aspect because of the resurrection power.
00:21:53:05 – 00:23:14:21
Unknown
So I take it that this is downstream of that it’s doing this joy of living this side of the resurrection and therefore be conformed more to the resurrected Christ. And then we have to, because we have resurrected glorified bodies such that when in the breach and the breach, the gospel plays like, okay, here we go, a reading from the Holy Gospel according to Luke.
00:23:16:15 – 00:23:38:03
Unknown
Study history. And look at the legacy. To be an episode from three years ago. On the same dangerous and super dangerous. So you might find me saying similar things because I have, since time immemorial, been impressed by the fact that this is the only instance of the word Exodus in the New Testament. So what is an Exodus? So Paul does means like the way and acts means out of.
00:23:38:03 – 00:23:55:18
Unknown
So it’s like a way out of specifically a way out of slavery in Egypt in its Old Testament context. But when you think about what is it that our Lord comes to do, what is it that he comes to accomplish? So we’ll think about it in terms of redemption or deliverance, atonement, satisfaction. We have all kinds of words.
00:23:55:20 – 00:24:09:14
Unknown
But this idea that he leads us out of slavery to sin and into the promised land of grace and virtue, that is to say, you can access into the perfect society of the church which is present here on earth, but which is tending on earth to its fullness in heaven.
00:24:09:14 – 00:24:20:08
Unknown
So Church Militant, to Church Triumphant. And so we see here, kind of like in German or in Dutch, the redemption which he is to accomplish in the end.
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Unknown
So it’s a redemption, you know, where his glory will be obscured, or as it were, smeared with the dirt and dust, the grime, the blood which characterizes his glorious way up to Mount Calvary as is, you know, like completed by his passion, death and resurrection. But like it’s the glory which conducts us from where we are to where we want to go.
00:24:41:16 – 00:25:08:09
Unknown
That is to say, okay, so maybe like a reference to his power in the last reading, it’s just a reference to his Godhead, the power of the divinity, which is at work through this humanity which brings about our subjection to him. And it’s that power which transfigures his humanity, which is present to us, that is to say, with which we have contact in all times and places, through a sacred humanity, through the church, through the sacramental dispensation which we can have confidence will deliver us from sin and death.
00:25:08:11 – 00:25:38:09
Unknown
So I think like maybe it was last week, intellectual episode, I was talking about how the love of God strong. We’re not at risk of losing it. And love is the word for presence, with, as it were, the desire to remove or to alleviate the source of our suffering. So mercy, love and mercy. And so we see it here, shine forth, as it were, fleeing forth, and to see it in its fullness, in the vision of God in heaven, provided we are patient and persevering at the end, I.
00:25:38:10 – 00:25:57:04
Unknown
So I will defer to the expertise of the great Scripture commentator. Rafael. Nice. Obviously the artist. The it so the, you know, the most beautiful depiction of the Transfiguration was done by him. I believe it’s held by the Vatican Museum. The depiction of it that I have seen that that that I think is the most beautiful.
00:25:57:04 – 00:26:16:17
Unknown
Is the mosaic done after the fashion of his painting, which is in Saint Peter’s Basilica up on the left side. The the thing that is remarkable to me about his. Well, there are many things that are very beautiful about his depiction. But the thing that I want to mention today that is remarkable and worth our meditation are the colors that he clothes the three disciples in.
00:26:18:00 – 00:26:44:11
Unknown
So you have Peter clothes in gold, John clothed in red, and James clothed in green. And with each of those you can assign, a kind of virtue classically. But with those colors. So, Peter, clothing gold is faith. John clothed in red is charity, and James clothed in green is hope. And. Yes, exactly. And then if you.
00:26:44:11 – 00:27:05:04
Unknown
Then if you do so, you sort of like you, sort of you, you hold those anchors, you hold those anchors for those colors, and then you start exploring a little bit the lives of those disciples, and you find a very you find very rich residence’s of the meaning of those virtues. You know, Peter, who, of course, professes the faith of the church, the faith in Christ receives the keys to the kingdom.
00:27:05:16 – 00:27:28:12
Unknown
Rains in Rome, the seed of faith. You can look to John, who cared for the Virgin Mary in Ephesus, who wrote the beautiful testimony of of love, which are that that the letters of John, which are which are so beautiful. We get that great line that we as Dominicans preach on all the time. We love because he loved us first, he first loved us as it’s often rendered.
00:27:28:12 – 00:27:50:09
Unknown
Right. And then to think of that life of the Virgin Mary at Ephesus is being a kind of exchange of love. And then you have James, a James the Apostle of Hope, who lived in Jerusalem, who presided over the church in the place where the resurrection occurred, who was a kind of heir to the hope of of the new life wrought by Christ.
00:27:50:09 – 00:28:13:07
Unknown
And so I’m very fond of our painter’s interpreter and, the clothing of the disciples in those three virtues, you know, and it’s nice to see these passages, and some of them are easier to see in Technicolor. You could say like that for some people. Yeah. You know, the green doesn’t really do much for me, because it’s hard to money.
00:28:13:18 – 00:28:31:21
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So, but but like this, this passage, there’s just a lot of detail there, and it’s quite apparent you could do a lot with it. But I was struck this time with is, the time differentiations here, we assume, at least I’ve always seen, like most of Elijah, you know who they are. And that’s like, wow, bringing together the past and the present.
00:28:32:02 – 00:28:56:15
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You know, Jesus, most Elijah and you think like, wow, the disciples know it’s most Elijah. Just like, did you see him? Or is it like they had to? But here’s interesting thing is that most in Elijah are at least like five years apart from each other, right? Like they also, five years. I like Moses, it’s not like Moses and Elijah, but in the Old Testament.
00:28:56:23 – 00:29:20:18
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Oh. You wouldn’t know. But it’s the continuity across the whole spectrum of them. I’m not saying, like when you think about, like, Moses and Elijah, Moses like, oh, oh, are you kidding me? Oh, lawgiver. What? I, you know, Hey, buddy. Through, like, long periods of time, you had Abraham in the first round. Of course, he doesn’t show up here because of shame, but he’s he’s got a thing to do.
00:29:21:18 – 00:29:44:22
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But like, counting stars period of time with these greats, you know, that they’re that they were extended over time and that the covenant was proceeding from them. Keep going to Moses. Of course, the prophet covenant as well. And then Elijah, of course, the covenant lawyer. So the covenant is now coming to fruition in Christ, and that they they two had to look into the future.
00:29:44:22 – 00:30:05:16
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In a sense it would be, a surprise in a way, or at least if, you know, a a new experience of actually coming across large swaths of time and then we’re all still a part of that. Like we need not worry about the fact it’s been 2000 years, since Jesus coming back because it’s a long time from all these stages of the covenant, extends through time.
00:30:05:16 – 00:30:11:00
Unknown
And the God is the eternal one in the story from Abraham all the way up to here. I like that.
00:30:11:00 – 00:30:27:20
Unknown
Amen. Okay. Hallelujah. No. Not yet, not yet. Okay. The context really well is the difference between meaning and use. So you just you can, I mean use I say mention it. Use. Yeah. Nice. Endorse it. You. Yeah.
00:30:27:20 – 00:30:53:08
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It’s just I meant it as an exclamation point. So just exclamation point. Yeah. Yeah. That’s right. Yeah. No thoughts on on this mountain experience and inspiration. Dazzling white. This is, like my sisters are involved by getting things, clean. Because whenever your habit gets in trouble, you have all the tips. Yeah. Like carbon stain removal that’s there.
00:30:53:09 – 00:31:18:10
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Like, good for all kinds of weird products that get on your habit. Like, really interesting. The Katie stick. That was the one that changed my life. That was a net. That was a natural sister tip. Hairspray is good for ink. Stains was not. Amen, guys. Thanks for all those who listen to this gospel. So, blessed learn. Did you prepare in 1 or 2 words that the foot of the cross this season?
00:31:18:22 – 00:31:40:18
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