Our Fifth Anniversary! | All Five Godsplaining Friars

August 8, 2024

Fr. Gregory: This is Father Gregory Pine. 

Fr. Patrick: This is Father Patrick Briscoe. 

Fr. Joseph-Anthony: This is Father Joseph-Anthony Kress. 

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: And this is Father Jacob-Bertrand Janczyk. 

Fr. Bonaventure: And, and this is Father Bonaventure Chapman. 

Fr. Gregory: Nailed it! And welcome to Godsplaining. Thanks to all those who support us. If you enjoy the show, please consider making a monthly donation on Patreon. Be sure to like and subscribe to Godsplaining wherever you listen to your podcasts. So it’s a time-honored tradition of the Godsplaining podcast to host an episode on our anniversary, not our anniversary of profession or of ordination, but our anniversary of having started the podcast. Last year we entitled it: Saint Dominic and the Rosary and we talked about neither Saint Dominic nor the Rosary. So we’re going to title this one on perambulating in retirement homes and we’re actually going to talk about that the whole time. But five years, okay so brethren, let us be attentive. Five years of… any thoughts on five years slash random associations slash things that have to do with a number five. Fr. Bonaventure?

Fr. Bonaventure: Cheeseburgers on the moon. 

Fr. Patrick: We’ve been doing, we’ve been doing Godsplaining longer than it takes to get through college. 

All: (Laughing) It depends on who… 

Fr. Bonaventure: You could say we’ve provided a college education already. I’m pretty sure it’s accredited. Godsplaining U. University-splaining. Maybe college-splaining. We don’t offer doctorates yet. It’s like an eight year program. – 

Fr. Patrick: I like Godsplaining U. It’s like Prager U, but with habits. – 

Fr. Gregory: Or like ClaritasU, except less apologetic and more high-jinksy. Father Joseph-Anthony, as an expert in educational administration, do you think that Godsplaining should be accredited today or tomorrow? 

Fr. Joseph-Anthony: I think it should have been accredited yesterday, actually. We should, this has been a long-standing institution, I think, at five years now. It is credible. And I think that the education you can receive by listening to these podcasts is, you know, much more, I don’t know, much more applicable and usable for your daily life than going in hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt only to go into grad school. So that’s my thought on it. 

Fr. Bonaventure: Although, the technology stuff isn’t as good. 

Fr. Patrick: I think I think we should award every listener that’s been listening since the first episode with an honorary Godsplaining doctorate. 

Fr. Bonaventure: Honoris causa.

Fr. Gregory: Honoris causa.

Fr. Patrick: And they all make a speech. 

Fr. Bonaventure: No, I think it should be, I think it should be an associate’s degree, honoris causa. [laughter] Maybe or maybe, get this, even better: a certificate honoris causa. [laughter] That’s basically what we could offer, is a certificate honoris causa.

Fr. Gregory: Yes. So Father Joseph-Anthony having set us up well for our academic accreditation process, we thank you for that. But here we are reflecting in our dodage on the many years that have passed as we approach the end of our lives at varying speeds, depending on whether or not we text and drive that would be at the highest rate. But we thought that in this time together we could recount some highlights, some fun lights, and some hope lights… and the chances that we remember all those different lights and the appropriate prefixes are low, so my suspicion is that this will become all of the lights and we’d like to thank our corporate sponsor for providing that title. So leading us into highlights, Father Patrick, thoughts. 

Fr. Patrick: I have to say that my highlight is still absolutely getting this thing off the ground because I had scissors, two empty tin cans, a piece of string, some tape and a dream, and that is how Godsplaining was born. So, some listeners have heard the story before, but initially we recorded the first episode, we had set up a bunch of stuff up and then out of some sheer panic, I didn’t in fact post the episode and Father Gregory encouraged me and said full send, and then we posted it on the Feast of Saint Dominic. We’d be going ever since. I mean, so for me, the beginning, the beginning was the highlight, and it’s just been, yeah, I don’t want to…finish that part… [laughter] No, but that was really a great moment. – 

Fr. Gregory: Nice. All right, well, in light of Father Patrick’s revisionist history of Godsplaining, we have been gradually declining in quality ever since the outset. So, sorry folks, that we have wasted your time for a period here five years, but perhaps to give an alternate addition of the things that transpired, Father Jacob-Bertrand, any highlights preferably ones that take place after 2019? 

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: What was 2019? 

Fr. Gregory: When we started it. 

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: Oh yeah, my bad. I’m sorry, I apologize if I sound weird on the podcast. For those listening. I’m in the midst of the flu, which is awesome. So that’s great. Highlight, fun light and hope light, all together. Nothing like a spring flu to really get you out of bed. Okay, so kind of a hot take, probably not something you’d expect me to say, but I think the highlight of Godsplaining thus far has actually been the Camino, which I know everybody’s face. There you go. If you’re watching on YouTube’s, yeah, I think so partly true because there were a lot of good things about it, but also partly, time because a lot of time has passed such that I can now be like, oh, yeah, remember when that great experience happened? But seriously, I think the Camino was one of those, is a highlight, you know, if you were like, quick highlight, I would think Camino kind of stands out as one of those. So that’s what I’m going to throw out there. 

Fr. Bonaventure: The student brothers have a distinction, which I haven’t heard before between type one and type two fun. And type one fun is first level first order fun like bowling. And type two fun is, is the kind of fun that first order is not fun, but when reflecting upon becomes like something you enjoy, you take a second, it’s like a metafun. So the Camino is like type two fun would be we went hiking and we ran out of stuff and we came, it was really dicey at points and really frustrating but wow, we made it. And Camino sounds like that’s type two fun, right, for you, maybe type two fun for Father Gregory? 

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: Maybe. It’s definitely, so one bowling is awful. Sorry if you like bowling. Bowling is miserable. 

Fr. Bonaventure: Type zero fun. – 

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: Right. Wearing someone else’s dirty sweaty shoes. Like what other sport do you wear other people’s used shoes? That’s awful. – 

Fr. Bonaventure: LA. – 

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: No. (laughs) No. So, but yeah, it’s maybe type two, there was some type one fun, but that would be my highlight over the past five years, I guess. 

Fr. Gregory: Wild. Yeah. I think I might say a similar thing. My experience of the Camino obviously was a lot like yours and so far as we were in lockstep except when we weren’t in lockstep. But wildly enough, my positive experiences on the Camino were all kind of unforeseen/unplanned. It was like we squatted up with a group of 18 people who were awesome with whom we spent a lot of time. But then it was like meeting all of these people who were on the Camino just kind of getting broken open by the experience and were on some spirit quest. And I was like, wow, what’s going on here? So those were like highlights within the highlights. It’s like when you die your hair and then the roots grow out and then you dye it again and then the roots grow out. I don’t actually know if that’s applicable. But Father Joseph-Anthony, any highlights whether it concerns the coloring of hair or the living of your podcast life? 

Fr. Joseph-Anthony: Yeah. I think over the last five years, am I not… am I muted?

Fr. Gregory: Father Joseph-Anthony, I can’t hear you. I don’t know if the other people can. 

Fr. Joseph-Anthony: Can you hear me now? Yes, no, maybe? Oh no.

Fr. Bonaventure: While he’s doing that, he’ll talk over me, notice this, this is a part of the cool part about Godsplaining, so this is a cup. Not, that’s not exceptional, but has a bunch of philosophers on it so you can see this has let’s see I don’t know about 60 of these guys, one, two, three, four, five, five rows and about like 10 columns, 50 maybe, yeah, 50, 50, 60, it’s hard to say. Anyway, only the top row, so only the top row has anyone before 1600 on it. So there’s five rows of philosophers here and only the top row has is it top rows like from the creation of the world until Thomas Aquinas and then we jumped down to the next level and we’ve got Hume and Voltaire, Machavelli… I mean look we’re just rockin here. I mean and just Phillipa Foot really deserve to be on the same cup as like Plato? I mean, so what Godsplaining does, I think, to help a little bit is to get a sense of like the sense that the medievals are, you know, and still have something to say and this kind of stuff and that, you know, this kind of nonsense can start to stop. – 

Fr. Gregory: Yeah, I would identify that as one of the tertiary goals of Godsplaining. I think we’ve got several primary and secondary goals which may outpace the relativization of Phillipa Foots’ philisophical contribution. But back to highlights, Father Joseph-Anthony, your thoughts. – 

Fr. Joseph-Anthony: Yeah, I’m back. Hopefully I stay live here. I’m having technical difficulties, which is beautiful. Yeah, I think one of the highlights was when we did our live episode at SEEK, we’ve done two of those now. But the first one that we did in SEEK was really eye opening and humbling in a lot of ways, because we had such a great crowd. We had a lot of people who were dedicated fans and getting a chance to encounter them in that venue was a real humbling experience and kind of eye opening to see, you know, this random project that started with some string tin cans and scissors now has blown up in such a huge way. So those live episodes at SEEK for the last two years were really awesome and definite highlights for me for sure. 

Fr. Gregory: Yes. Speaking of the flu, I definitely had the flu during the second one. And so it was like a combination of being underwater/inside a hollow conductor during a lightning storm, but the vibes were immaculate nevertheless. I just couldn’t experience them except at a distance. Less this episode become a thousand years long. I think that we might jump to fun lights. And so far as Father Fun-aventure is kind of a resident expert in fun lights and the narrating thereof. I was hoping that you might work out for us one of your fun lights. 

Fr. Patrick: He’s a fun-osaurus. 

Fr. Bonaventure: There’s 72 philosophers on that cup. [laughter] Can you believe that? That twelve of them are from like, the 1600s comes another 60. I mean, it just blows my mind. Fun events. Yeah. So fun events. So I got three cane toads. Yeah. That was pretty fun. And the problem with cane toads, which is great. Whoever is listening to this, really appreciate that. Love cane toads. But here’s the thing because I’m kind of legalist in a way, not like in personal morality. But in a virtuous sense, like I choose to be a legalist, but I do not legalist you ought not to be. – 

Fr. Gregory: No, the law binds you to be a legalist. – 

Fr. Bonaventure: Well I choose to bind me, that’s what it means to be free. So the thing is, canet toads are an evasive species, so you can’t release them anywhere. I also like toads, so I can’t kill them. I also don’t know where they’re from. So it’s hard to know where to send them. I don’t think I’m allowed to give them to anyone. So it’s a weird dilemma that I’ve been just kind of like sitting in and I’m kind of just hoping they die but, but I don’t mean to bring about their death so it’s a sort of intention forcing distinction that might be involved. So but it was pretty exciting when one of our friars here sent me a picture and said, hey, there’s live reptiles in the mailroom for you and I took this box and I had teach a class right away, so I just took it over to me with the class, and just set it on the table as I was teaching. And no one noticed we were doing something important, so it didn’t, but until later they said, “What’s that?” I said, “I think it’s live reptiles.” Says it’s live reptiles. So it opened it up, and there they were at toads, and then it only dawned on me when reading the label that these were cane toads, which I momentarily saw all things in the name I’ve got for a second. I thought cool. Oh, no. What do I do? So anyway, that was but I mean that was that was pretty fun. I’ll have to admit it was fun to get cane toads It’s sort of type one fun and then it’s tricky… 

Fr. Joseph-Anthony: Tricky fun. 

Fr. Bonaventure: About what to do with them. 

Fr. Joseph-Anthony: Is that type three fun? Tricky fun?

Fr. Bonaventure: Yeah. It might not even be fun. It might just be like a moral dilemma than it falls in deep sadness as I step on some toads that I love. I’m trying not to get to know them so that I can do that when I have to pull the trigger. Yeah. 

Fr. Gregory: Things got grizzly there. So thanks for expanding the category of fun lights to include moral dilemmas and grizzly departures. So Father Jacob-Bertrand with the limits of fun lights now set in such exciting and somewhat ambiguous fashion, do you have a fun light that you can pick out from the last five years? 

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: I don’t know if I understand the distinction between a highlight and a fun light, to be honest. [laughter]
Fr. Bonaventure: You certainly wouldn’t. 

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: But I think a fun light that I didn’t participate in at least not direct- I know a fun light was what was it, boats and boating episode. So for those who don’t have the sort of behind the scenes scoop onto how, into how we decide our content… it’s very scientific in that we just kind of have like a video call like this and just kind of throw episode ideas and then kind of assign things. And who was the… boating and boats, boats in voting that was what Father Patrick and Father Bonaventure? – 

Fr. Gregory & Fr. Joseph-Anthony: Yeah, yeah. – 

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: There was somebody who was very against that episode, but as all democratic organizations go, we voted and that person was voted down and that was fun for me. I had a lot of fun shutting down Father Gregory, who’s a hater and does it like boats, water, the ocean, or boating. – 

Fr. Bonaventure: That episode still gets, like the Dean of the Business School of Catholic University came to me and said, I love that episode, would you like to [inaudible] [laughter]. Yeah, that was a good episode.

Fr. Gregory: That’s when I learned that votes can be cast ironically, spitefully, and mirthfully all at the same time. Yeah, like the votes, like they weren’t cast against me, but they were cast against me. They weren’t cast unseriously, but they were cast unseriously. It was just like, I was like, I don’t know what’s going on, but I know that I’m losing, and I guess I’ll have to consign myself to my fate. Father Patrick, given your vast experience of both boats and boating, that is to say the moral superiority of, what is it? Did you argue for like motorboats over sailboats and father bonaventure associated the ladder with like the collapse of civilization or something like that? Regardless, I’m abandoning this transition and asking if you have a fun light. 

Fr. Patrick: It was a pretty clear argument. He said because I prefer speedboats, I hate the Virgin Mary. 

Fr. Joseph-Anthony: Yeah. Yeah, that was a direct quote. 

Fr. Bonaventure: That was the inference. And then you, and then he committed to it. So it’s “modus ponens.” 

Fr. Patrick: So if you haven’t listened to that episode, it’s pretty fun. Yeah, so one of my fun lights was when we first shifted the model of recording to studio sessions. And we got out of the tin can internet and we were able to hang out with each other for a few days. We first tried that in New Hampshire. That was a great experience just to be together. It greatly improved the experience of the podcast in my own view. It took something that was fun and had become difficult to maintain actually with all this scheduling we were trying to do. And for me, it brought that back. And so it was definitely a fun night, I would say. 

Fr. Gregory: Father Joseph-Anthony, you’re where you at? 

Fr. Joseph-Anthony: I’d be here in Charlottesville still. [laughing] 

Fr. Gregory: That was a spiritual “where you at,” when it comes to fun lights. 

Fr. Joseph-Anthony: Yeah, yeah, true true true true true true. When we talk about fun lights, it’s actually really similar to Father Patrick’s is when we moved over to the studio, scheduling, block recording, all that kind of fun stuff. But for me, it was like actually when we moved down to Washington, D..C, like we basically did a tester on a new Hampshire and it seemed to work and it seemed like, okay, we might be able to pull this off and then we kind of just invested in the setup and then the studio side of things which I love the production side of things and it gave me the ability to start to tinker with things and to reset it all and get a bunch of gear and stuff like that so that’s been really a lot of fun and it continues and I’m always kind of tinkering around with the production side of it all. So I really, really love to be able to do that, and to enjoy it. And that’s been just, yeah, it’s a lot of fun to have an opportunity to kind of utilize this podcast and that platform for that really odd weird hobby that I have. 

Fr. Bonaventure: So the good part about New Hampshire was that we got to cool down the cameras with bags of ice…

Fr. Joseph-Anthony: I remember that. I do remember that. 

Fr. Bonaventure: …on top of them and you can actually see, dear viewer, some remnants from the New Hampshire experience. If you look at Father Jacob-Bertrand one, him, but two, the stand behind him, the book case there, which looks very similar. We don’t transfer that every time we record it. There’s actually two almost identical ones that differ only in some sort of material composition issues. – 

Fr. Gregory: Right. And he has retained possession of those bags of ice as a living memorial. That is to say a melting memorial of our first Godsplaining recording session. 

Fr. Joseph-Anthony: That was a janky. 

Fr. Bonaventure: Yeah, a bag of ice on top of electronic things. That was really cool. That was that was when it hit high gear. Like that’s, that name literally gear high gear. Yeah. 

Fr. Joseph-Anthony: That was such a janky setup, but like we made it work. And it was, it was hilarious. 

Fr. Gregory: Yeah. If the, uh, the contents of the bag don’t get you the condensation will, that’s what we learned. Yeah. Um, thinking of fun light, I, I, I recount, uh, one, uh, an episode about George Orwell, literature and George Orwell in which, I forgot what it was like to ugly laugh. So you know, there’s like the distinction between cute cry and ugly cry. It’s like cute cries like a single tear. It elicits a kind of warm feeling on the part of the beholder. Whereas an ugly cries like mascara runs, racking sobs are heard people distance themselves. So there’s a similar distinction between laughs where it’s like there’s like ‘teeheehee’ kind of chuckle giggle, whatever else and people are like, “ah what mirth in the building”, And then there’s the ugly laugh, which causes the individual to so gasp for air as to lose his bearings and his kind of like connection with the exterior world. And Father Bonaventure, in recounting the difference between toads and lizards taking up the gifts at the offeratory, and then describing the Divine Favor and then the lack of Divine Favor apropos said the caused, ah, occasioned, I’m responsible, I choose to be bound by these laughs. Caused to cause one of the first instances in my life of an ugly laugh, like I, it was bad. 

Fr. Joseph-Anthony: It was so funny, I remember being in the studio… – 

Fr. Bonaventure: You actually hear Fr. Joseph-Anthony laughing on it as well. It’s everyone likes it. – 

Fr. Joseph-Anthony: I think if you go back to that, you can hear me in the background, just losing it as well. At that point, it was all gone. Like you can’t help it. It was just, everything got torpedoed, but that was so much joyful moments. It was so funny. – 

Fr. Gregory: I also, like, apropos, fun lights, which is to say weird lights, which is to say actually low lights, but we’re not calling at that. I remember when we used to record a lot of these things remotely, every time the software changed, like the service provider tinkered with something on the back end, we’d just lose a bunch of footage and it would cause unending woe. And there was one time where I troubleshout a problem, semi-continuously for 36 hours. Obviously, I went to sleep and I went to prayers and meals. But in the interim time, I think I troubleshot a computer problem for like 14 and a half hours. And at the end of it, I felt so desolate, so desolate that I consider discontinuing my graduate studies. Okay, that’s an exaggeration, but, it was bad. 

Fr. Bonaventure: It was better than actually doing the graduate work. [laugher] That is what it means to write a dissertation. When 36 hours of troubleshooting a silly video feed issue actually beats out doing dissertation work. That’s what dissertations are like. – 

Fr. Gregory: Amen, Alleluia. Okay, so transitioning then into our third and final segment of this here are all of the lights. We thought we could do some hope lights, which again is another made up word that we have cobbled together for the purposes of our own hilarious manipulation. But Father Jacob-Bertrand, do you have any hope lights? 

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: I was hoping not to go first. Well, that affords me the opportunity to ask someone else while you meditate on the theme. Father Joseph Anthony, hope lights?
Fr. Joseph-Anthony: Yeah, I was hoping that you wouldn’t ask me first. Yeah, I think hope lights for it is, I actually, I’m excited about a lot of the guests that we have coming up and to watch how those guests and interviews continue to evolve. I remember when we first kind of pitched that idea, I think our first guest episode was with Sarah Kroger, it was me and Father Patrick. And that was just like a real stick in our neck out on the line, but seeing how it’s evolved over the years, like I think that’s one of the really interesting aspects of the podcast is the different guests that we have on and the different voices that we have. So I think my hope is just to continually watch that segment or that part of the podcast continually grow. And I’m excited for it. So yeah, I think of where we’re talking about hope lights for the podcast is just that like that guest side of it all is really exciting to me. 

Fr. Gregory: Just so you know listeners, we occasionally send very ambitious guest. Oh, what would you call them? Invitations on the kind of song in the prayer that the people might respond, not realizing that Godsplaining isn’t too terribly serious of a project. Although it is accredited now when we do grant certificates, you know, we’re still waiting on replies from Jordan Peterson and from Harrison Butker and from others besides. So if you wanna let us know as to people who we should invite, keep us posted slash email us. Father Patrick, do you have a hope light? – 

Fr. Patrick: I want to go to Australia. And I want to recreate the picture of John Paul II cuddling a koala bear. 

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: Yeah, I’ve heard those things aren’t nice actually. It’s a risk. 

Fr. Gregory: I’ve heard similar things. 

Fr. Patrick: Well, then I’ll punch kangaroo. And pet a dingo. – 

Fr. Joseph-Anthony: I’m not getting anywhere near Australia. They have too many points of snakes. I don’t deal with snakes at all. And they have like 90% of the world’s poisonous snakes. And I want nothing to do with that. I made up that fact. I don’t know if it’s real, but I’d rather go to the shire in New Zealand, just saying, maybe I could do maybe could do an episode in the shire! 

Fr. Patrick: Godsplaining down under, c’mon. 

Fr. Gregory: Godsplaining down under, Godsplaining expanding to the Southern hemisphere at the invitation of those who intend to pay for these travels. That they will not happen otherwise although I’ve heard that just maybe it’s something with marsupials because I’ve heard that the kangaroos are somewhat violent as well. Like, public transportation in Australia, I think on the buses, they have these contraptions out the front of the bus that angles down so that if a kangaroo were to cross their paths at high speeds, that it would get like forced under the bus rather than jumping through the windshield. So they’re called rhubars. I think that’s all true. I didn’t make any of that up. So we’ll be looking forward to our Australian tour in which we, during which we have the opportunity to contend violently with marsupials. Against that, imaginative backdrop. Father Jacob Bertrand, any hope lights? 

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: Well, I was going to say Australia too, so… 

Fr. Gregory: Well, Australia’s taken New Zealand’s taken. Papua New Guinea is not yet taken. If you would like to take another…

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: No offense, but… 

Fr. Gregory: None taken, the Solomon Islands. We can go Oceana more broadly no, okay. Um, the Philippines? 

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: – No. (laughing) No, my desire to travel has waned or the scope of where I would…the scope of where I would go to has become much smaller as I’ve aged. I would go to Australia. I would hope for that. That’s probably it.

Fr. Gregory: It’s just Australian death folks…

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: I probably don’t get Antarctica.

Fr. Gregory: Really? 

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: Yeah.

Fr. Gregory: Father Father Bonaventure, your thoughts on Antarctica.

Fr. Bonaventure: A few things: one there is a, there is a Marian statue on a base in Antarctica The only it’s the only like Marian statue on any army base, but it happens to be there because of someone who fell through the ice and was a Catholic or something. That’s interesting. 

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: On no other army base in the world is their Marian statue?

Fr. Gregory: I mean, there almost certainly is, but I was present when the person told us the story and that was the claim. So we can only pass it on in good faith. 

Fr. Jacob Bertrand: Aren’t there Catholic churches on military bases with Marian…

Fr. Bonaventure: But I think it’s not like, not like stat- the claim sounds plausible because like a permanent fixture outside, don’t you think so? Have you been in Army-based chaplains? They’re all, the chaplaincy are really non-denominational. Everything’s movable, but like a permanent, a permanent Catholic statue. That sounds plausible. – Sounds plausible. Second thing though, second thing is, Father Joseph-Anthony is more to you. So is New Zealand like Australia for you in terms of lack of desirability? 
Fr. Joseph-Anthony: No, I would love to go to New Zealand. Like New Zealand is very attractive to me. Australia is not. 

Fr. Bonaventure: Right. And you said the Shire, right? 

Fr. Joseph-Anthony: Yes. That’s where they shot The Lord of the Rings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Fr. Bonaventure: Yeah, I was wondering, yeah, so with New Zealand, okay, folks, there it is. Why? Yeah, I never thought Australia was different than New Zealand. But Father Gregory also has that great expression on is face right now. Yes, I’m going to assume, actually, you didn’t ask me about the hope lights here, but– 

Fr. Gregory: Go for it! 

Fr. Bonaventure: All right, fine. I will. All right. Fine. I Don’t know…

Fr. Gregory: Do you want to bump that certificate up to an associate’s degree? 

Fr. Bonaventure: No, I hope, I hope well, tell you what I hope to do another Day of Recollection at some point because I thought that was fun. And it was neat to meet people who had no idea about what Godsplaining was, but were meeting us. Because most of our retreats, are people who have heard the episodes, or something like that, and know about us coming to it. But we were in a Day of Recollection in Columbus, Ohio, and a bunch of people were like, “Cool, you guys are great. Where would I find more about you?” That kind of thing. That was really cool. It was nice to meet new, we love our audiences, of course, and our normal community. But it was nice to meet people who would join as well who just never heard of us before, which is great. And we just enjoy meeting people. You don’t always experience that, at least some of the retreats. So it’s like two kinds of retreats. There’s like newcomers and and community retreats or something. But that was cool. 

Fr. Gregory: Yeah. I think that’s probably, my hope light is to meet people. I like… sometimes we talk on the podcast about making the digital community a real community, not to say the digital things aren’t real at all, but they’re less real than in-person things. Sometimes it’s not always clear the best way by which to go about that, because you can only have so many retreats such days of recollection in the course of the year before your limbs just start falling off from overexposure to the interior of airplanes. That actually doesn’t happen, nevermind. But yeah, it’s good to meet people, it’s good to meet listeners, and it’s good to make of the digital community something more real, more in person. So, finding ways by which to do that is always exciting. So, look forward to the next World’s Fair hosted by Godsplaining in Chicago at the site of the last Chicago World’s Fair. Coming your way. Father Jacob-Bertrand, your thoughts on world’s fair or any final thoughts for this episode. 

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: I read a book once…
Fr. Joseph-Anthony: Good. We love that. We love that. 

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: …about the World’s Fair in America’s in Chicago and America’s first serial killer. 

Fr. Bonaventure: Yeah, white. It was kind of like white devil in the city. Yeah. Yeah. Devil in the White City

Fr. Jacob-Bertrand: Yeah, it’s a great book. Yeah. Okay. 

Fr. Bonaventure: Godsplaining recommendations. 

Fr. Gregory: Tremendous, okay, so look forward to an upcoming literature and the Devil in the White City episode as a kind of ominous portent of what will happen once we hold our biggest in person…No, that sounds like a veiled threat. We don’t intend any of that. We just intend celebration on account of the fact that it’s our fifth anniversary. Father Patrick, any final anniversary thoughts? 

Fr. Patrick: Fifth year, best year. 

Fr. Gregory: Fifth year, best year. What about the sixth year, thoughts? Bestest? 

Fr. Patrick: Eh, a little too hopeful. ‘Bester’ I think. 

Fr. Gregory: ‘Bester’. Okay, cool. And Father Joseph-Anthony, any last commendations, excitement, blah, blah, blahs? 

Fr. Joseph-AnthonY; No, I’m just, it’s a weird shock and weird place to be the thing that we’ve done this for five years now, and it still feels like we’re still trying to find our way through it and make it up as we go, type of a thing. You would think that we’d have it down for after five years of doing it, but I still feel… It still has a certain freshness of like, yeah, we’re just making this work and having fun with it. So I keep to having I keep wanting to have fun with it and I hope our listeners keep having fun with it. So yeah have fun with it. 

Fr. Gregory: Father Bonaventure, are any final non sequiturs or sequiturs? 

Fr. Bonaventure: Yeah, I don’t know what you’ve heard, but Suarez is a boss. Francisco Suarez, this is like 900 pages of selection from a bunch of his legal stuff. And it’s because it’s funded by Liberty Fund, which is like a libertarian group. It’s like 10 bucks. And when you read Suarez, I don’t know what people saw it. So seriously, Francisco Suarez, top notch. – 

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